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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.19 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Eventy One on 19/03/2008 20:17:00
In another thread Esmenet wrote:
 Originally by: Esmenet
The issue is not highsec mission running but the problems of defending yourself in lowsec.
Highsec has concord and 0.0 has player"police". Lowsec has nothing. Sure there are ways to stay safe but it will often dramatically lower your earning potential. So its not the middle ground between highsec and 0.0 like it is commonly seen as.
I thought the issue of protection in high sec, low sec and 0.0 was an interesting perspective, and I think Esmenet is right on the money with why low sec is fundamentally broken. Add to this that people want to be able to gank, Concord or no, as evidenced by the empire ganking that is currently going on.
This lead me to pose this suggestion:
SUGGESTION
What if we make it harder to gank in empire by increasing the Concorde forces that respond and deny insurance the right to compensate if killed by Concord BUT allow Concord to operate in low sec under given circumstances .. and allow the players the right to fight Concord when they do appear. In otherwords move the high sec ganking into low sec, by provide pseudo protection to SOME under given circumstances that can be defeated.
THE HOWS
Say, while in the process of engaging in level 4 or 5 mission running in low sec for a legitimate empire faction, Concord provide a security detail (for a cost) that provides protection to the person whose mission it is (i.e. you alone while in low sec).
Make the low sec missions worth pay noticeably more than their high sec equivalents and if Concord is forced to come to you aid you are charged a set fee (based upon the value of your mission) to pay for the assistance.
I wonder if that would make life more interesting.
BALANCE ISSUES
Considering balance, this solution would not make low sec into empire because the chance of running into protection or not, would be a crap shoot and having protection called upon would also incur a consequence for the person being protected; not every player would have Concord defense - so the risk for those with no other sanctioned purpose (no mission) would be still equally great.
Similarly this solution would not make low sec into 0.0 as Concord would have the opportunity to intervene under given circumstances and it would cost the mission runner money (to pay for the aid).
For the potential outlaw .. they can't tell if you are on legitimate Empire business or not, so their would be greater risk when attacking some victims over others. This would change the whole dynamic of low sec. Clearly people are currently willing to go against Concord as we can see from high sec ganking. Why not make lowsec the region where this is completely permissible.
EXECUTION
What does CCP have to do to make it happen:
- Low sec fighting Concord should not be deemed an exploit
- Turn on Concord protection for those with level 4 and 5 missions
- If Concord is called upon (i.e. the player is attacked) a fee is charged
- Increase the reward associated with level 4 and 5 low sec missions
- Increase Concord protection in high sec (more Concord, faster response)
- Deny those killed by Concord in high sec the right to Insurance payouts
RISK VS REWARD?
Players with legitimate business in low sec have a measure more of protection, however PvPers would still have the opportunity to attack everyone freely if willing to risk that some players may have a security detail working with them. Those being protected accept that this protection is not free, with a chance for greater reward (if not attacked while running missions)
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.19 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Celot
is there a single part of this idea that isn't stupid and game-breaking?
Is there any part of your response that is insightful or constructive?
There's your answer.
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.19 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Celot
that answer forms a paradox, dumbass
Does it? 
Try this one:
Calling someone a dumbass is ad hominem and illogical. Illogical argument have no logical value.
Hmm.
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.20 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hugh Ruka
no ...
no concord but navy of he respective empire where the lowsec resides ... this way you won't avoid concord (exploit) and you will get faction hit when fighting the navy ..
You're right. I like this better.
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